Ever notice when the marriage ends men take little from the house, in some cases just their clothes?

I understand in some cases the woman and kids remain in the home so you wouldn’t take or divide material possessions. Excluding this situation, I’ve seen many men just leave cheerished belongings & everything and just walk.

A) Do men do it because they don’t want painful reminders?

B) They are conditioned to give everything over to the woman?

C) The man is shattered by the system, by failure & feels unworthy?

Not looking for sympathy at all, just raising awareness, because I feel men’s issues lack major understanding & support. I also think there’s a link between this and why children are fatherless.

At the rate we’re going if nothing changes children will eventually have one parent.
* Maybe the 37" plasma TV his prize prossession at one time. The Bedroom set. the couch, etc.
****** Some call men Losers, They don’t see there kids.

Women don’t admit they worked vindictively hard to remove the Father from the childs life.

With all the claims, he was an abusive husband it a miracle Father’s have any rights period.
Jude: In a generalized way you portray women as Victims & Men as Abusers.
Women leave and divorce and break up the family at a much higher rate than men.
You have all been indoctrinated by focused interest groups, by their advertising & propaganda to believe one thing.

Women are innocent victims & Men are oppressive abusers.
George: It sounds like your saying There’s a political agenda to elliminate the role of father.
Reducing men to Sperm & ATM machines.

George, where are Men & father’s in the Movement? Is it just starting to gain strength? Where can I be of best help? I know men are become active as have received the short end one too many times.


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We have been dating for 2 months now, so I felt comfortable enough around her to just be myself. Well, the other night, I let one slip while we were snuggled up together on the couch watching a DVD I rented from Red Box. It was a chick flick that I don’t even like, but I watched it with her just to make her happy. Either way, she overreacted about me letting one and says we now need time apart. I mean, I have done everything to make her happy. I paid off her credit cards and let her use my social security number to get a car loan and now she wants to break up over this? Do you think that is right?


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Ok I have a son that is two months old. The guy that I was with we never got married. Yes, his name is on the birth certificate. He has always been very emotionally abusive to me and he has treated me horribly. It all started when I became pregnant. We moved back to Kentucky trying to have a better life for our son and so the guy I was with the baby’s father could be closer to his family. When I was pregnant I only had three pairs of maternity pants and that’s all I was aloud because he said that I didn’t need anything else. I even got clorox on a pair of the pants and he made me use a black magic marker to cover up to the clorox spot, but he would always go and get what he needed. He would even go and always get his haircut, but I had to cut my own hair. When I was 9 months pregnant he made me carry a couch and love seat because he didn’t want to ask the neighbors for help. He is horrible horrible. Plus his mother has always been horrible to me to and he aloud it. He never defended me or nothing. I was getting very tired of it. The other night I wanted to stop taking this birth control because it made me dizzy and he told me that he was going to cram the pill down my throat if I didn’t take it because he didn’t want anymore kids. That’s where I finally drew the line. I told him that he needed to start treating me better and stop the emotional abuse and start defending me against his mom. He chose not to. The house that we were living in was in my name. So, I told him that he needed to leave and go to his mom’s and bring his stuff with him. Well, he left and I went to my mom’s because I was very upset. When I went home the next morning the entire house was empty. He even took all of my stuff and the neighbors witnessed him taking everything. He totally abandoned me and my son. Left us with no money or nothing. He contacted me the next day and I told him what he did was horrible and that our son needed formula. He didn’t even offer to go and get formula, but that’s the way that it always has been. I’m the one that got all over our son’s clothes I’m the one that has got all of his formula. I’m the one that paid rent. I’m the one who has always gave our son a bath. He never even took me to any of my doctors appointments when I was pregnant. And never went to any of our son’s appointments except for one because he stayed home from work and he still didn’t want to go, but I told him that he was going to get his shots and his dad should be there so he went. Oh and I had a c-section with my son and he would make me sleep on the couch while he was in the room because he needed his sleep and didn’t want to be woken up because he said he needed his sleep for work. He only stayed up with our son three times because I just couldn’t physically go anymore. My body shut down because I was so exhausted. Well, I sent him mom a couple text messages just to let her know about her son and how horrible that he was and that he has never paid for diapers or nothing. That I was the one doing it all. Plus, I sent the father a couple text messages to. Well, she threatened to charge me with phone harassment and so did he, but i’m not sure if they actually did. So, I decided enough is enough and that I don’t need this abuse anymore and either does my son. He would even just put our son in his swing because he never wanted to hold him. Well his mom wants another baby so he decided he wants his son and take him away from me. I couldn’t afford the house that we were in without him because of him abandoning us. My parents were getting ready to move so my dad could be by his mom because she’s getting ready to die so I had no choice to go with them. I even had to sell his crib his changing table and his dresser to get money for diapers and formula. My son is very healthy he weighs 16 pounds and he’s 24 inches long. He’s big and healthy and very clean. I have always made sure of that. I even have witnesses of how bad that he has been to me. I even have proof that I paid for everything. So, to make a long story short I had no choice, but to leave the state with my family and move in with them. I’m planning on going to nursing school and become an RN. I really want to try. Plus I really need to seek counsling over this because this has been really hard for me and I know the womans shelter has counslers. He is a horrible horrible person and so is his mom. Well since I left I’m not sure if they did charge with me with phone harrassment and if they did what would that do to me? I want full custody of my son. Do you think I will get full custody of my son?? I have been hearing about these new laws for fathers. Can they charge me with kidnapping even though we are not married,but his name is on the birth certificate?? I am in desperate need of advice and help. I don’t want child support from him because he has never wanted to contribute and I don’t want someone to make him contribute. So, thanks for all the help…


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Im so heated with the way he is acting..Lately we havent been so good, because of
his careless actions..So i decided i would start talking to other people as a warning that if he doesnt straighten up I would surely leave him..a couple days ago i went to see him & while we were on the couch watching tv, someone txtd my phone..In an instant he snatched it away from me & began looking thru my txts..He seen that i was talking 2 other ppl so he threw me on the couch & started to choke me..When he seen that i couldnt breathe he backed off..I asked for my phone back but he hesitated..So i left home..His friends have tried to get it back for me but none have succeeded..Crazy right??ughh..ts been worsee


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First, a bit of background: My roommate is Alex. We met in high school when he moved there in 11th grade. We’ve lived together since 1 month after graduation. Jon is my recently-ex-boyfriend. (I am 25, Alex is 26 and Jon is 26) Alex and Jon went to school together before Alex moved to my school. They met back up in college and started hanging out. That’s how I met Jon 4 years ago, through Alex.. Alex and Jon haven’t hung out much since I started dating Jon..

Anyway, a week ago last night I went to Jon’s apartment to surprise him (I had gotten off work early).. I was the one to get the surprise though.. I go inside (I have.. er, had.. a key) and find him making out with some girl on his couch.. We get in an argument and I break up with him. I don’t need that crap in my life..

I’m upset. I go home and Alex is on the couch watching TV.. I just walk into my room and shut my door. He heard me crying when I came in so he came into my room to see what was wrong.. I told him about the whole situation and he gave me a shoulder to cry on.. About 10 minutes later someone knocks on the door and he goes to answer it. Its Jon. He walks into the living room and I can hear their conversation.. Jon asks where I am and Alex just tells him he needs to leave. Jon starts being a smart-a** to Alex, being a jerk and all and Alex starts telling him off.. So they’re arguing and I hear Jon say to Alex something along the lines of "You’ve been pissed at me ever since I started seeing her.. you had your chance with Katy before I came into the picture but you didn’t take it.. I gave you every chance to ask her out before I did.. It isnt my fault you were too big of a p*ssy to act on it.. you need to quit acting like "you’re" her boyfriend.. you had your chance".. then I hear the door slam and I guess Jon has left.. I peek out my door and see Alex sit down on the couch and put his head in his hands.. I didnt go in there.. I just went and took a long shower…. Which got me to thinking.. there were times before I started dating Jon when Alex would do little things that should have let me know he cared more about me than I thought.. One time I was sick and he made me breakfast in bed, and he would watch movies in the living room floor with me that he couldn’t stand. We got so close for about two months but then Jon asked me out and we started drifting apart.. Since the night Jon came over last week, he has avoided the subject of Jon and relationships all together.. He wont even let me hug him now, when a week and a half ago we were wrestling in the floor together..

What is this recent change in his attitude from?? He knows I could hear their argument in the living room cause my door was still open.. I dont know how to bring it up without making him uncomfortable.. What do you think I should do??

And by the way, had I known what his intentions were back then, I almost guarantee I would have ended up with him instead of Jon.. I’ve always had a thing for him that no one has known about..


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