People are born gay, ding dong. These ex gay people you’re talking about are shamed into the ‘normal’ life.

The people who are later in life gays where shamed into living a life they did not want. Most are depressive and suicidal until the are able to be true to themselves.

Your idiot is showing.


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Many people think that Twilight is for girls, or gays, and they say is boring because of the romance. I love it, and I’m a guy. I just LOVE the twilight saga. It became my favourite.

Do you think New Moon is going to chance that idea? This second Twilight Saga film, has more action, speccialy with the werewolfs.

[sorry my English :S ...... I'm portuguese LOL]


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And don’t hand me that protecting marriage crap either. If you want to save marriage, ban divorce!

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=A9FJui4.UhtF8ngBzQHsy6IX?qid=20060927211016AAt7Equ

During my last post Christians complained I was judging them by the actions of a few. Or they claimed that ‘those people’ are not true Christians–funny that’s not how ‘those people’ tell it. Yet, Christians pass judgment on gays, Muslims and Jews, etc ad nausem all the time.

The only difference is when someone gay does something stupid…they are ridiculed by they gay community. Religious people greet stupidity with silent approval and allow it to continue in their name.

So if I’m not supposed to judge you on the actions of a few and we really do have freedom of religion, what makes it okay for you to do it to me or an entire community? Why do you feel so righteous when you vote away potential privileges for others?
papaof whatever….I don’t live that far away from dry ridge…don’t make me come up their and smite your pc TRY ANSWERING WITH SOMETHING OTHER THAN CUT & PASTE FOR A CHANGE.


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Many people think that Twilight is for girls, or gays, and they say is boring because of the romance. I love it, and I’m a guy. I just LOVE the twilight saga. It became my favourite.

Do you think New Moon is going to chance that idea? This second Twilight Saga film, has more action, speccialy with the werewolfs.

[sorry my English :S ...... I'm portuguese LOL]


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I have searched, and searched for any real negatives out there about swinging. All the negatives I found were most from YA over the last couple of years which all were based on the myths of swinging.

Myth Number One: It will ruin your relationship with your spouse.
-This is sometimes true, but only for the couples that use it as a way to save their marriage. They were doomed before they showed up.

Myth Number Two: There is a smorgasbord of STD’s in swinging circles. According to the CDC, most of the STD’s are found in high school and college kids, African Americans and Gays (summarized from various diseases). Swingers are no where on the report. It seems they take safe sex to a new level, far and above what a high schooler would, even with just a condom. Everyone should know condoms in themselves are not enough protection. Just a start.

Myth Number Three: Ironically, monogamy is a myth. This is no joke, a real book from real scientist uncover in their "The Myth of Monogamy: Fidelity and Infidelity in Animals and People." that very few animals in the animal kingdom (including humans) are really that monogamy. Serial monogamous at best.

But what do I know? Instead, I invite anyone and everyone to find a book or website that talks about the negatives of swinging. If you can google or yahoo anything outside the religious circles who are against any form of sex outside of marriage, I would be grateful.

This is all I found:

http://www.ejhs.org/volume3/swing/body.htm

http://www.mobileswings.com/faq/benefits.htm

http://www.libchrist.com/new2002/collegepaper.html

http://www.libchrist.com/swing/began.html

http://www.couplestouch.com/

http://www.marriedswingingcouples.com/

No negatives, at least the ones I did find outside the religious circles, were all ironically from YA, from the people who tend to understand it the least.
The types of searches I did were like, dangers of swinging, STD’s and swinging, negatives of swinging, Is swinging bad, the cons of swinging, the problems with swinging, does swinging destroy marriages, beware of swinging and does swinging kill?
My single line of question, where is it that swinging is actually bad? Point me the way, don’t throw 1950′s style ignorance of sex at me, when it was said that masturbation would make you go blind.
I remember a time when people criticized people who wanted to make flying machines. These insane people were constantly told that if God wanted them to fly, they would have given them wings like a bird. Now flying is normal. Very few, at least if they do not have a unfounded fear, question the act of flying. It’s a paradigm shift, much of how Swinging should be considered now. We are still stuck as a people on either some silly notation that God will hate us, or we will spread STD’s. If God wanted us not to be swingers, he would have not make it possible for condoms, and other forms of protection…
My first post is made up. It exposes the double standard of ignorance among many, especially on YA.
I am technically an out swinger. A non-practicing swinger. Me and the wife use to mess with it when we first got married. Now, we just don’t have time to mess with it, plus I have high blood pressure so I cannot drink like I use to. But I now stand to protect and promote a good healthy lifestyle.
Celtic G: Well the world also knows that drugs, alcohol and smoking are very unhealthy, yet there are more websites dedicated to showing the truths and statistics. If people are not smart enough to avoid those vices, what then about swinging? They are smart about certain things they never talk about, never read up on, never explore, yet have a problem with stuff they do know and try. Check your logic.
God didn’t create marriage. Man, moreover, woman really evolved that part. Marriage was an arranged business dealing that had zero love in back in the old days, back when the Bible was being written, long before it was translated, and re-translated.
Celtic G: You are breaking away on me. You cannot defend the fact that many cannot avoid the "biggies" yet can somehow avoid the small stuff on being smart enough to know, yet they do not know, or even want to know. If they read it up, really thought it about, discussed with with some people before they came up with a conclusion, I would not have a problem with their ideas. But when they, people like you, just up and say stuff that is not true, unfounded, only sounds creditable like an urban legend, pretty much coming up with mistruths, that is something else.
I have never had an STD. I have known a few who had, but not a swinger. Most were single, and in the scene with bar flies and freaks.
I take it no one could find a negative website with real facts, or anything meaningful?

Same old rhetoric without any meat…


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